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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 4, 2009 8:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Ya know I gotta pick up on this again cause as far as I'm cocerned your preaching to the choir I agree w/ everything you said about Olbermann and Rachael. I was loyal to the point when Keith and Rachael told the truth about issues, the war and the decisions that led to those two conflicts. If Fixed News is going to be provocative and inflamatory with partisan rethoric then by all means lets have MSNBC cloud the issues for the right. They seem to want to pull the country just as hard and ridiculous to the left. Its a wonder any working stiff ,self employed, armed service memeber ( ...we're all confused...) to wonder what the hell is going on in that Sodom and Gomorrah we call our nations capital

...You can call this song the United States Blues...

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 4, 2009 11:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

"lets have MSNBC cloud the issues for the right. They seem to want to pull the country just as hard and ridiculous to the left."

Telling the truth clarifies not clouds!

That's not something you can back up with facts. MSNBC is not a leftist outfit. 2 shows that counter RNC/Fox talking points with truthful facts that can fit in short segments is in no "pulling" the country hard to the left.

That's totally ridiculous, although they and Stewart and Colbert have some influence on the younger crowd.

I dare you to take issue with any specific facts on the Olberman or Maddow show -- you'll only catch small things. You'll have to go to Fox for The Big Lie and to ABC, NBC, and CBS (and the NYT and WPost) for slick spins.

Yes, summertime has come and gone, my oh my. I got mine and you got yours, but US we can't seem to keep our hands off other's stash.

We have no excuse for our karma because we know these words to all these songs by heart! We ignore them at our peril. If it's said, look out the saints are comin' through, and men gonna light my way. Who is ME?

Even the messiah doesn't have a messiah complex.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 5, 2009 12:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

I'll be on vacation soon, so the noise level will be better for a some weeks!

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 5, 2009 5:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

spaced--

before you go on vaca, just know I enjoy having someone on this forum who's even to the left of ME. I didn't think that was possible ;-)

I don't take issue w/most of what you said, and as I've said many times before here, the disastrous realm of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice/Rove years will have repurcussions for years and years to come. Obama inherets a bigger pile of crap than you could fit in a Rhino and the hard right acts as if it all cropped up in the last 6 months.

Still...I draw the line at the Hitler=Bush crowd. We make such false comparisons at our peril. We cannot ignore the history of what really happened under the Nazis. last time I checked Bush and Cheney weren't rounding up millions and sticking them into ovens and gas chambers (detention centers in Cuba without formal charges, yes...and commiting acts of torture that the U.S. once prosecuted the Japanese for doing in WWII...yes...and that's horrible....but it still does not rise to the level of Hitler.)

There are degrees of evil in the world. Hitler's was intentional and with clear intent to eliminate an entire population of people. Bush and Cheney's was born more of hubris and ignorance and fear. Big difference, and we need to recognize it.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 5, 2009 4:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Yes, I agree. WWII was a massive disaster. More devastating than the Mongols?

I'm always wary of defensive reactions against the use of Hitler and the Holocaust. There were many more people effected than one ethnic group, many of which have used the disaster for personal and propaganda gains. See http://tinyurl.com/m2lt2r.

It's a nasty world on one level, even in Biblical history where the Jews themselves committed similar holocausts.

Of course, you right despite their sympathies with Hitler, the right wing here have not done those things lately -- umm mass genocide and chattel slavery are kinda Nazi, nest pas? Though they have sponsored similar things or allied themselves with perps across the world for decades. I guess I should feel blessed I haven't had to face that sort of thing myself.

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 6, 2009 5:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Grandelchoice: ask australian journalist Jane Burgermeister if she thinks Obama/cheney not worse than hitler soon! jmburgermeister@gmail.com

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 5, 2009 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Amen

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 5, 2009 4:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

"MSNBC They seem to want to pull the country just as hard and ridiculous to the left."

Bull....

Didn't get the lickin's that the other ones had?

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 5, 2009 8:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPankJ0TytY

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 6, 2009 2:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvfq4dZOTNs

I got to see the Pretenders as opening acts 2 times, for The Who in 1980 or so and for U2 in 1987.

It's great that Rush Limbagh is also an animal right's wacko and supports PETA.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 6, 2009 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-7Mp41E5sw
I can dig it SF seen the who in 82 at the Silverdome and in 89 at old cleve muni stad,my u2 show in 85 at frankfurt germ. did'nt turn out to well was my first time in a jail and the fact it being german made the exp. all the more hideous. I figuured limbaugh to be the type to step on little puppies heads maybe only black ones,
you may have misunderstood my intent regarding MSNBC Ive been a loyal veiwer of Countdown since its beginning in 2000 and have no intention of changing my veiwing habits any time soon, just getting burnt on trying to always carry the water for the Dems w/ my family and everyother member of the lunatic fringe that wants to exspouse their veiws my way Now this huge uproar about Barack talking to students as if thats never been done before oy Blue has always been my fav color and Pete T. always my fav artist none of that will ever change. Dig this vid if you can peace















































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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 6, 2009 10:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Chrissie Hynde makes Rush Limbaugh pay

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5923659/really_randoms_chrissie_hynde_ricky_martin_jimmy_page

BTW, while I like Olberman I do prefer to record the program, and just watch the 3rd of it that has actual news and analysis. A DVR also make for quicker work with The Daily Show and Colbert.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 5, 2009 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Right-wing / conservative / traditionalist Deadheads

Well, I hope you realize that we have tallied up the scores and you are right there with me, Rob, UU, and vebl. Hope you like the company--I think having a handful of Gandhis around is a good thing.

Have a great Labor Day weekend, Hipster!